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I have to agree with the majority on here; I've had a lot of cars and this is the car I have enjoyed the most, and for the longest. 40,000 miles in, and I still wouldn't swap it for one that was twice the price.
It would seem that most of the cars the OP has tried has had the issue but would seem he overlooked it at time of purchase, and I must admit I haven't noticed anything with mine that would drive me to start a thread with the title "avoid the I-Pace".
 
Pacesetter said:
I have to agree with the majority on here; I've had a lot of cars and this is the car I have enjoyed the most, and for the longest. 40,000 miles in, and I still wouldn't swap it for one that was twice the price.
It would seem that most of the cars the OP has tried has had the issue but would seem he overlooked it at time of purchase, and I must admit I haven't noticed anything with mine that would drive me to start a thread with the title "avoid the I-Pace".
So not the "unmitigated disaster" that the OP asserts, then? :lol:
 
Very happy with mine after 12,000 miles. Never really noticed the brake noise enough to bother me. I think it's a bit more noticeable than on ICE cars because there's no engine noise to cover it up!
 
Agree with night fox regards brake discs. I turn my regen down to low once a month and actually force myself to use the brakes (ie press the brake pedal) on one drive to clean disk surface.Best way is to go down a hill and brake firmly at bottom.Only need to do this once and makes all the difference to disc surface, will look like new! Hopefully solves noise issue too...
 
Yeah, my IPace has had more first year problems than I expected it would... but despite the unusual amount of shop time, its been a great car. Unbelievably awesome, if I'm being honest. One of the best cars I've ever driven, let alone owned.

Let me help you out... "The IPace is an instant classic, and probably one of the first collectible electric cars." There, do you feel better about it now? :) Try and keep the interior nice, that always helps with the auction value later.
 
Tophe74 said:
After 16 months and 22000km I still drive my ipace every days with a lot of pleasure.
First car I own that still do that.
It's even better after H264 update
14 months for me and it still makes me smile even on a short daily commute. I also still look back at it every time I park it and walk away. It's a real drivers EV!
 
I think this all comes down to how the brake servo function is handled on an EV where there is no partial vaccum generated by the engine to provide that assistance. More specifically what jaguar has done to deliver that function. effectively an electrical high pressure pump is engaged at the point the brake pedal goes past the point at which regen is used. Similar to that used by some electronic handbrakes. You may find the pump might be shared with the one used to provide this function in ABS.

The question is have jaguar done enough to isolate the noise of that system from the cabin of the car, personally it doesnt bother me - largely because it doesnt happen that often, and if I do get it in normal driving (unless I'm coming to a stop) it's a sign i'm not driving as efficiently as I possibly could. It's also a lot quieter than any of the electronic handbrakes I've had on merc or jags previously.

I doubt I would hear it in an ICE car, other folks may be irritated by it more (clearly), use the brakes more frequently or have a noisier pump. Jag could improve the noise isolation for the unit, and may do on future models - but it is definitely not a deal breaker.
 
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I guess what I have never understood is how some people like me have this brake noise issue (as did the other I-Pace on the dealer lot) while other owners say they have absolutely none of this noise at all. You would think there would be constancy of this...it should either be there or not be there. The fact that JLR corporate tech support heard my noise and deemed it "normal" just frustrates me even more.
 
lairblock@gmail.com said:
Trust me, this does not in any way solve my brake issue...wish it did.
I am not sure exactly what you hear. These noises occur in ICE vehicles, but they are only noticed by the owners of cars that are expected to be very quiet.

I have pasted a link that shows some traditional brake linkage components here. https://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/631090/10002/-1

Noises can come from the brake discs & calipers, noises from the master cylinder and hydraulic components or mechanical noises from the brake pedal pivots, bearings, return springs or even friction noises caused by the push rod scraping on the firewall sealing rubber boot.

It may be possible the noises are made inside the cabin above your feet, if the pedal pivots or return spring were not properly greased when assembled, there may be grinding noises.

The pedal push rod that passes through the firewall in to the brake booster can rub on the concertina rubber boot making juddering noises too, special "Rubber Grease" that does not soften or swell rubber parts will silence this friction noise.

A good independent specialist brake mechanic may be better at recognizing your noises and should know the cure.

Cheers, Steve
 
Following on from this thread, I tested mine today. I normally use one pedal driving and had not noticed anything untoward. Today I selected Low regeneration and tried the brakes on a couple of occasions. No untoward or unexpected noises from the brakes and everything as it should be. Back to one pedal driving.
 
Slightly off-topic, but various recent posts on this and other threads confuse me a little re high and low regen settings.
My understanding has always been that there is no difference in the degree of regeneration or friction braking between the two. The difference is merely on which pedal does it. IE, if you select low regen, lifting your foot off the accelerator pedal gives a small amount of regen, pressing gently on the brake pedal gives more regen, and only when the max amount of retardation available from the electrical system is exceeded does the friction braking come into action.
Exactly the same occurs with high regen, except that the top inch or so of the accelerator pedal does the same as the first inch or so of the brake pedal in low regen.
In both cases, the friction brakes are only used when the braking effort requested is more than the electrics can provide.
It this is true, the corollaries are:
Re this thread: To clean the rust off the brake discs (which I agree with all is required from time to time), you need to brake quite hard, and the regen setting makes no difference.
Re some other threads: efficiency/range is unaffected by regen setting; if you accelerate and decelerate gently enough that there is almost no friction braking, there should be no difference in efficiency; indeed, IMHO, low regen leads to more gentle driving and probably better efficiency.
Am I right on all this?
 
DougTheMac said:
Slightly off-topic, but various recent posts on this and other threads confuse me a little re high and low regen settings.
My understanding has always been that there is no difference in the degree of regeneration or friction braking between the two. The difference is merely on which pedal does it. IE, if you select low regen, lifting your foot off the accelerator pedal gives a small amount of regen, pressing gently on the brake pedal gives more regen, and only when the max amount of retardation available from the electrical system is exceeded does the friction braking come into action.
Exactly the same occurs with high regen, except that the top inch or so of the accelerator pedal does the same as the first inch or so of the brake pedal in low regen.
In both cases, the friction brakes are only used when the braking effort requested is more than the electrics can provide.
It this is true, the corollaries are:
Re this thread: To clean the rust off the brake discs (which I agree with all is required from time to time), you need to brake quite hard, and the regen setting makes no difference.
Re some other threads: efficiency/range is unaffected by regen setting; if you accelerate and decelerate gently enough that there is almost no friction braking, there should be no difference in efficiency; indeed, IMHO, low regen leads to more gentle driving and probably better efficiency.
Am I right on all this?
That's all correct Doug. The setting only affects which pedal does what. The system works exactly the same in either setting. But some people find it easier to drive efficiently on motorways in low regen as just lifting off the grin pedal doesn't apply braking. To coast in high regen requires a well balanced right foot!
 
To clean the rear brakes, press and hold the park brake. The car will stop using the rear brakes, it will not abruptly lock the wheels.
 
Maxwell_400 said:
The car will stop using the rear brakes, it will not abruptly lock the wheels.
To clarify, do you mean the car will come to a stop by using the rear brakes, or that it will refuse to use the rear brakes (English can be a little ambiguous!)?
 
AVOID FEEDING THE TROLLS !!!

This subject and 2 others looks like driven by trolls or AI bots collecting every known issue ever appearing in I Pace (or any other EV!) to discourage potential customers.
Their main goal is to keep topics with offensive titles alive and on top as long as possible...
 
The OP has posted a useful mod in another thread. The title is polarising, but the writer may be frustrated by persisting noises spoiling the ambiance of the I-Pace experience.

I prefer to drive my I-Pace with the audio system off, as I appreciate the quietness interspersed by the faint whine of the motors :geek:
 
Pacesetter said:
I have to agree with the majority on here; I've had a lot of cars and this is the car I have enjoyed the most, and for the longest. 40,000 miles in, and I still wouldn't swap it for one that was twice the price.
It would seem that most of the cars the OP has tried has had the issue but would seem he overlooked it at time of purchase, and I must admit I haven't noticed anything with mine that would drive me to start a thread with the title "avoid the I-Pace".
Agree Pacesetter, a bit of a sensational title for thread. A better (more appropriate?) thread title "noisey brakes" perhaps? I love my ipace, talk it up whenever anyone will listen..
 
scm said:
Maxwell_400 said:
The car will stop using the rear brakes, it will not abruptly lock the wheels.
To clarify, do you mean the car will come to a stop by using the rear brakes, or that it will refuse to use the rear brakes (English can be a little ambiguous!)?
It will stop.
 
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