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Considering an I-PACE 400 90kWh S 2019 - 60k miles - Should I avoid?

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#1 ·
Hi all! New here! I've never owned an electric car before and it wasn't exactly a "goal" however, I recently find my current car in a position of needing to be replaced and so I've been looking around....

I saw a very nice Jaguar XE however I then also saw this very nice I Pace but I've never had an electric car before and I've heard a lot of horror stories of the batteries failing and costing more than the cars worth to repair etc so I wanted to speak with anyone who knows more about owning one of these cars to get a true understanding of it.

The car I'm looking at is 2019, 60,000 miles and dealership says:

"It has benefited from services at Land Rover at 17k and 29k miles and serviced less than 6k ago at Jaguar Manchester. "

What are your thoughts, should I avoid this car if I'm looking for something reliable? and not too costly when it comes to repairs.

Is there anything I should be checking/asking beforehand? is the lack of full service history an automatic "pull out"?

Any advice greatly appeciated, thanks guys

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#3 ·
Do not buy it without a 2 year Jaguar Warranty! The Heater WILL FAIL ÂŁ3000-ÂŁ4000 to replace.
The air con will fail (cracked pipe joint) both high cost to replace due to main battery out.
 
#4 ·
Certainly the warranty is a good thing and is a reason to buy from a main dealer. You want a Jaguar Approved Watranty. A third party warranty offered by most independents won’t cover the Jaguar labour rate and the claim limit will be too low.
They don’t all go wrong. My first I Pace was a 2018 car which I had until last year and the heater didn’t fail and not did the AC. They are, however, known faults.
 
#5 ·
Do your research. Buy with your eyes wide open and only with a gold plated iron clad warranty.

My wife bought 2 19 plate cars for her business. Both had their (multiple) problems. Our car spent 30 weeks of the road in the 34 months we had the car. Jaguar eventually buying the car back from us (give them their due - at a very favourable price)
The car went “back” to Jaguar and has not been MOT’d or taxed since it left us 18 months ago. Sort of tells its own a story.

The car is a brilliant piece of kit. Unfortunately the back up not so. Such a shame. Buy that year of car carefully.
 
#10 ·
Another one successfully scared off.

Certainly expensive failures do occur.

Are they more or less rare? Quite possibly the latter (which may well make it more difficult for those in that group because of the skew of costings).

Warranty costs for an ipace of that vintage are not overly dissimilar to an XE/XF.

That tells you average costs in aggregate are about the same, but ipace failures tend to be more expensive, thus less frequent.

This does seem to be a pattern. My local specialist does a lot of warranty work. Earlier things seem be more graceful in failures - break more often, but less significantly.

Later it's fewer but tends to be more catastrophic. Ingenium replacement isn't cheap.

This isn't specifically a jag or ev type thing. It's a complexity thing. In order to meet ongoing safety emissions etc things have got a lot more complex. Observationally euro 6 and the peripheral safety stuff seems to have been a bit of a turning point.
 
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#8 ·
Yeah I understand, trying to somewhat mitigate the unreasonable part though like premature failure of things etc like from the sounds of it , the i-pace is almost destinated to fail on certain things that are costly. Sort of like the Jaguar XE/XF 2017 to around the 2019 (especially the diesels) with known issues with their chains/tensioners/engines etc. So I think I'm gonna go with an XE/XF 2015-2016 as those had the ford ecoboost engines in them and from what I've been reading providing you keep up with servicing and ensure the service history checks out too then it should be pretty solid.
 
#9 ·
Buy 2021 and above John. Clive.
 
#11 ·
People say it is better to get a Pivi rather than Touch Pro car for several reasons, but basically, new may be better. As is often pointed out on here, the older cars do have advantages as well. I "think", subjectively, that I do read on hear of more problems on older cars. However, two things should be kept in mind which are often overlooked. The first is that they made a lot more older cars. When production started they could not build enough of them. Production towards the end was much slower. The second thing, although it sounds obvious, is that you would expect an older car to have more random failures than a newer car, even if they left the factory in identical specifications.
 
#13 ·
If it’s any help, I had an XE 2020 from new and swapped to a 2022 iPace this year. Much more room for rear passengers and while both were great to drive, the iPace is a different level of quality. The change has been a complete no brainer. A third of the cost to change is covered by petrol saving and while parts will be expensive, they were on the XE - it’s a Jaguar!
Never thought I’d afford a car of the original RRP - currently feels like a bargain.
 
#16 · (Edited)
Surely any 2019 cars should now have had any issues fixed?
Same goes for the cars in the crossover years where the Webasto heaters were faulty
The 12V battery (or 2 on earlier cars) can give an issue after 3 years but some are ok to 6.
Usually the rule buy the latest car you can afford applies but early cars have options not present on later cars and vice versa.
Theres the argument about wheels too where te 18s seem to give better economy than 22s. Or is it down to make?
There's plenty of people running each model year.
Keep a pile of cash in the bank just in case, fix it yourself or fund a warranty
Choosing which dealer may be more important than choosing which car.
At the end of the day just get one and run it :)