See my first home charge to capacity with my new home charge point from charge master 214 miles
Max charge - seems low to me any comments?
Max charge - seems low to me any comments?
Fast Charging to 100% is bad ... slow charging to 100% is fine.mclarenpaul said:Hi Kororu,
Thanks for sharing and good to see real owners with real cars now giving information. Will be interesting to see how this evolves in the future based on your driving habits. Although, 214 miles is not too bad. A general question, is it OK to charge regularly to 100%? I understood this was bad for the batteries.
Besides, 100% is not 100%. The battery should have at least a capacity of 90 kWh, of which you as a the owner/driver has about ~85 kWh to ~86 kWh available (about 95 to 96%). The remaining ~4 kWh should be split between a top and a bottom margin (of which I do not know the ratio). So that the car never ever really tries to hit physical 100% and more importantly never ever let the battery slip to zero. Both extremes are bad for batteries, especially the zero.Gdank said:Fast Charging to 100% is bad ... slow charging to 100% is fine.mclarenpaul said:Hi Kororu,
Thanks for sharing and good to see real owners with real cars now giving information. Will be interesting to see how this evolves in the future based on your driving habits. Although, 214 miles is not too bad. A general question, is it OK to charge regularly to 100%? I understood this was bad for the batteries.
And why I say "slow" I mean "fast" ... not Rapid .... ohh this stupid naming system! I mean 7kw. compared to 50kw Rapid.
wow, 285 miles is really good on 1 charge. But I assume that was not on the highwayLiberal_Baggie said:My best so far is 285 miles on home charge you have to treat her gently to get good range.
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That's good news, 320 miles on the motorway with only a 30 min intermediate charge is good enough for me.Liberal_Baggie said:My best so far is 285 miles on home charge you have to treat her gently to get good range. I've been 160 miles out and back to day with 1 x 30 mins fast charge on Motorway took me 4 stops to find One (Ecotricity) that was working properly though that's nothing new! So 320 miles that's my furthest run to date in One day. Much Much better than my previous BMW i3 range extender it looks like and drives like a proper grown up premium car, and no more Petrol stops very happy so far.
Have you really driven 285 miles on a single charge??Liberal_Baggie said:My best so far is 285 miles
Older homes have 60amp supply newer normally have 100amp in UKBilly Bunter said:I think in the UK that standard supply is 50 or 60 A ?
An upgraded 80A supply will leave you with 80-32 = 48A for other stuff which is huge.
You need the advice of a certified electrical engineer / approved installer unless you are qualified yourself.Billy Bunter said:Depending on what other stuff you have you might not need the 80A upgrade, but only you can decide......
But the question to me is still why you had to upgrade your home electricity supply, because 60Amp is more than enough in normal situations. Even with 7,5kW charging in use, you still have 28 Amp available which seems more than enough for any normal house? In The Netherlands, many people have either 3x25Amp or 1x40 Amp. The 1x40 is a bit tricky, but there are solutions to lower the output to the car when you consume a lot of energy in the rest of your house (load balancing). So during the night, you would get full power to the car, while the car will charge slower when you use induction cooking, your kettle and your oven at the same time ;-)Cornishblue said:Thank for the comments about the requirements for your home supply to accomodate a home charger. I currently have 60AMP, as my house is an older build. To go to 100 AMP isn't cost effective, as it would need a whole lot of trench work etc. As a result I'm upgrading to 80AMP, which I understand will be suffice for a 7 kWh home charger. Especially if charging over night, when little else is consuming any power.
Time will tell. I was interested to know what other people had experienced, as I hadn't even thought about having to upgrade my home electricity supply, until I had placed my order!
Yeah wondering what kind of electronic gear people have - my house runs on 1x 35A and because I have no gas connection we also cook on Electric,Snoerd said:But the question to me is still why you had to upgrade your home electricity supply, because 60Amp is more than enough in normal situations. Even with 7,5kW charging in use, you still have 28 Amp available which seems more than enough for any normal house? In The Netherlands, many people have either 3x25Amp or 1x40 Amp. The 1x40 is a bit tricky, but there are solutions to lower the output to the car when you consume a lot of energy in the rest of your house (load balancing). So during the night, you would get full power to the car, while the car will charge slower when you use induction cooking, your kettle and your oven at the same time ;-)
Is 60Amp really insufficient for your situation?
Isn't switching to 3x25A in fact a downgrade..? You'll have max 25A available to charge your I-Pace, while you've got 35A now... Investing in loadbalancing would be a better idea in my opinion?Jelle v/d Meer said:Yeah wondering what kind of electronic gear people have - my house runs on 1x 35A and because I have no gas connection we also cook on Electric,Snoerd said:But the question to me is still why you had to upgrade your home electricity supply, because 60Amp is more than enough in normal situations. Even with 7,5kW charging in use, you still have 28 Amp available which seems more than enough for any normal house? In The Netherlands, many people have either 3x25Amp or 1x40 Amp. The 1x40 is a bit tricky, but there are solutions to lower the output to the car when you consume a lot of energy in the rest of your house (load balancing). So during the night, you would get full power to the car, while the car will charge slower when you use induction cooking, your kettle and your oven at the same time ;-)
Is 60Amp really insufficient for your situation?
never had any issues with insufficient capacity.
That said I am considering upgrade my house to 3x 25A due to the incoming I-pace as drawing an extra 16A might cause problems :-(. My earlier plan for 32A load balancing I scratched as too much hassle for too little gain also the monthly cost for load balancing was not worth it - I can charge 32A at work without problem, there is a free 50kW DC loader at the nearby Lidl and any direction I travel for longer distances there is a Fastned charging station most being upgraded to 175kW.
Well going from 35A to in total 75A for me is a massive upgrade to ensure sufficient capacity for the long term future.Melkie said:Isn't switching to 3x25A in fact a downgrade..? You'll have max 25A available to charge your I-Pace, while you've got 35A now... Investing in loadbalancing would be a better idea in my opinion?
Oh the irony... :lol:Jelle v/d Meer said:Global warming already made me think to install air conditioning so would need that extra capacity anyway.