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scapegoat
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Octopus energy v EDF

Post by scapegoat » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:18 pm

Debating between the 2 options at the moment having finally got the charger installed (brilliant job by Pod Point - highly recommended).

Seem to recall that Octopus offer a £50 each referral system - anyone want to send me one in case I go with them?


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Re: Octopus energy v EDF

Post by SteveA » Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:59 pm

scapegoat wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 3:18 pm
Debating between the 2 options at the moment having finally got the charger installed (brilliant job by Pod Point - highly recommended).

Seem to recall that Octopus offer a £50 each referral system - anyone want to send me one in case I go with them?
In case you go with Octopus, referral below. Personally I am finding the 4 hr slot at 5p/KWh very useful and fits in with my usage.

https://share.octopus.energy/crisp-bee-308
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Re: Octopus energy v EDF

Post by fa147 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:31 pm

I wouldn't suggest you against Octopus tariff, but EDF GoElectric is daily 9pm - 7pm and all weekends at 8p, which I find helpful with not only with relaxed EV charging but also all of the other electric uses you might have, especially at the weekend.
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Re: Octopus energy v EDF

Post by TeslaDriver » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:29 pm

I did some maths, if?? they are correct:

E7 7H x 22 MPH = 154 miles per day. 49kWh @ 8p / kWh = £3.92

GO 4h x 22 MPH = 88 miles per day 28kW @ 5p / kWh = £1.40

154 miles - 88 miles = 66 miles, 21 kWh. So on Octopus Go if you needed to charge 154 miles you would have to also use 21 kWh at Peak tariff

Not sure what Peak tariff for GO is, but @ 15p / kWh then 21kWh = £3.15 and add to that the £1.40 makes it an additional £0.63p on the days when you have to charge a full 7 hours on Octopus Go ...

Some possible slight benefit of E7 allowing the rest of the house to run at Off peak for the full 7 hours ... if you have anything running at that time :)

EDIT: Sorry that was E7 @ 8p ... I now see that what fa147 said was 9PM to 7AM which is a lot more generous.


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Re: Octopus energy v EDF

Post by fa147 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:30 pm

Standard tariff of EDF GoElectric is 16.54p per kWh and apart from the evening cooking, most of our electricity usage is during the evening and on the weekend, so it works well for us.

Plus it also means more hours overnight to charge the car and not have to worry about missed charging or not getting enough charge. I plan to charge as much as possible over the weekend and up to Sunday evening and then (most likely) only plug in 2 or 3 evening during the week to top back up during the high %.
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Re: Octopus energy v EDF

Post by SteveA » Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:50 pm

Don't forget to factor in standing charge, that can make a difference.

Octopus Go (inc VAT):

Unit Rate (00:30 - 04:30) - 5p/KWh
Unit Rate (04:30 - 00:30) - 13.8p/KWh
Standing Charge - 25p/day (£86.91/year)

Also worth looking at their gas tariff.
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Re: Octopus energy v EDF

Post by fa147 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:00 am

SteveA wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:50 pm
Don't forget to factor in standing charge, that can make a difference.

Octopus Go (inc VAT):

Unit Rate (00:30 - 04:30) - 5p/KWh
Unit Rate (04:30 - 00:30) - 13.8p/KWh
Standing Charge - 25p/day (£86.91/year)

Also worth looking at their gas tariff.
Isn't your standing charge (£91.25) - 25p*365.

Anyway, EDF Go Electric
Day Unit Rate: 16.54p per kWh
Evening/Weekend Unit Rate (9pm-7am + all weekend): 8p per kWh
Daily Standing Charge: 29.03p/day (£105.96/year)
I-Pace MY20 HSE, Corris Grey, Ebony/Ebony Interior, 20” Grey & Diamond Turned, Panoramic Roof
IMC: S19B_19.40.4-436082 | Telematics: 16.2 | Map 8.30.100.156


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Re: Octopus energy v EDF

Post by SteveA » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:32 am

fa147 wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:00 am
SteveA wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:50 pm
Don't forget to factor in standing charge, that can make a difference.

Octopus Go (inc VAT):

Unit Rate (00:30 - 04:30) - 5p/KWh
Unit Rate (04:30 - 00:30) - 13.8p/KWh
Standing Charge - 25p/day (£86.91/year)

Also worth looking at their gas tariff.
Isn't your standing charge (£91.25) - 25p*365.

Anyway, EDF Go Electric
Day Unit Rate: 16.54p per kWh
Evening/Weekend Unit Rate (9pm-7am + all weekend): 8p per kWh
Daily Standing Charge: 29.03p/day (£105.96/year)
My mistake, forgot to add VAT to the £86.91.
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Re: Octopus energy v EDF

Post by Goshdarnit » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:37 am

I worked out that 6 hours charging per day was the “break-even” point between EDF and Octopus Go. If you charge less than 6 hours (so for octopus that’s 4 hours off peak and 2 hours peak) then it’s cheaper. If you do 6 hours it’s about the same on both. More than 6 hours, EDF is cheaper. However, I did not take into account the standing charge. That actually alters it to closer to 7 hours per day being break even.

Looking at the graph of usage provided by Octopus, the car savings are the important ones. The household savings are minimal in comparison, so really not worth factoring in for me at least. They are tiny blips in the graph compared to the car’s consumption.


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