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Megter
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Re: I-Pace Video Gallery

Post by Megter » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:12 pm

Some might have read my post/seen my vid already, but for those who haven’t: I came to the conclusion 200+ miles is possible after a full day of test driving on the highway, exceeding the speed limit.
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Re: I-Pace Video Gallery

Post by johnd » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:53 pm

Megter wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:12 pm
I came to the conclusion 200+ miles is possible after a full day of test driving on the highway, exceeding the speed limit.
Don't really want to labour the point particularly, but I thought the conclusion was that consumption (of the pre-production model certainly) was around 30kW/100km giving a range of 300km or 188 miles (assuming you go from 100% ==> 0%, which most users won't want to do). Maybe the speed limit was exceeded in places but not by too much it seems.

Again, this was a pre-production car I believe, but for my personal circumstances I'm not going to be comfortable with a routine range less than say 220-240 miles. But we're still waiting for good analytical range-tests of a full production example. So all to play for still (but there's a voice at the back of my head wondering if the 2020 or 2021 MY might not be able to squeeze an extra 5-10% of range (maybe with slightly denser battery packing and further optimised software?) and so maybe I should buy something else in the interim).
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Re: I-Pace Video Gallery

Post by Megter » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:20 pm

30kW was including longer parts of 150+km/h.
I got to 156 miles with 74% by going just over speed limit all the times which is 200+ on full battery.

But you’re right, this was pre-production. Let’s wait until the real ones get there.
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Re: I-Pace Video Gallery

Post by johnd » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:56 pm

Megter wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:20 pm
30kW was including longer parts of 150+km/h.
I got to 156 miles with 74% by going just over speed limit all the times which is 200+ on full battery.
OK, that's useful info. But it does mean that say 93% battery is going to give around 195 miles. [93% on the basis that the initial charge might only be say 98% - doesn't that last 3-4% of charge take a relatively long time? And I suspect that most users won't be comfortable using the last 4-5% of range routinely (and isn't it supposed to be bad for the battery to almost discharge it completely?).]

TBH everything I'm seeing and reading at present is suggesting a usable real-world range of somewhere around the 200 mile mark. This is fine for day-to-day use I'm sure but is a significant limitation for longer trips unless there's a fast charger somewhere along the route.


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Re: I-Pace Video Gallery

Post by Tophe74 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:11 am

Don t forget the battery in 90kw but 84 useable. So at 0% its not empty. I do it every working ddays with my E-trin since more than 3 years now. 100% to 0% 10% then charging back to 100%. And range still the same as 1st day.
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Re: I-Pace Video Gallery

Post by johnd » Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:34 am

Tophe74 wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:11 am
...100% to 0% 10% then charging back to 100%...
Sorry can you clarify that sentence - not sure what you mean.

Unfortunately, this thread had diverted on to a range discussion rather than video announcements....but since we're here:

I do sort of understand what you mean about the 0-100% probably mapping to eg 4-96% of the actual 90kW battery capacity, but in practice isn't it true that:

1. Few owners will want to allow indicated range to fall literally to zero (even if there are still a few miles 'left in the tank' at zero).

2. Isn't it also the case that charging from eg 97-100% takes substantially longer than from eg 47-50%? So unless you leave the charging for many hours, you'll typically max out at eg 98% range?


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Re: I-Pace Video Gallery

Post by Tophe74 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:45 am

100% = 84kw so still 6kw of battery that u can't use but the battery itself is not 0% to preserv cells.
My A3 e-tron does the same with 8kw but only 7.4 available. And i mean i use it full every working days from 100% to often 0% and it still ok from 3 years now.
Its not like phones that use all the battery because its easy to change so no need. Manufactures prefer that u change it or even better that u get a new phone.
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Re: I-Pace Video Gallery

Post by johnd » Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:31 am

Yes, certainly, what we're talking about is the range of 0-100% available battery capacity, whether that's 84kW, 90kW or whatever. The bit in your previous post that I'm not understanding is:
Tophe74 wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:11 am
...100% to 0% 10% then charging back to 100%...
I'm guessing there's a hyphen missing? Maybe you mean 0% to 10% (0%-10%), or maybe typically not wishing to drop below say 5% available capacity, except in event of emergency or miscalculation? In which case, yes I agree completely. So, to rewind my point:

Whatever range 0-100% of available battery capacity equates to, then you might typically only have eg 94-95% of that maximum range as routinely usable range, because (i) a limited charging period might have reached say only 98% rather than 100% AND you might prefer not to drop below 4-5% indicated range when you reach home or your recharging destination.

So, based on the figures currently available, routine range looks like 190-195 miles or thereabouts or say 300-320km in round numbers.


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Re: I-Pace Video Gallery

Post by Tophe74 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:43 am

No i mean i use battery from 100% to 0 - 10% almost every days.
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Re: I-Pace Video Gallery

Post by Gdank » Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:06 pm

Tophe74 wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:11 am
Don t forget the battery in 90kw but 84 useable.
I thought it was 87kw. (97% usable)


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