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Re: SOTA

Post by Goshdarnit » Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:35 am

Yeah I was expecting stage 2 to have happened a bit quicker too. Any info crc can offer would be appreciated.
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Re: SOTA

Post by Radi513 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:26 pm

Just a thought... since the infotainment system basically is a Panasonic product. Will we ever see a larger update on performance etc?
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Re: SOTA

Post by Chewy » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:34 pm

Radi513 wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:26 pm
Just a thought... since the infotainment system basically is a Panasonic product. Will we ever see a larger update on performance etc?
This is my guess.....

The Panasonic base product is good at what it does and is generally quick in its operation.

Jaguar has let a bunch of kids lose on it to “customise” it to Jaguar’s needs. Poorly written specifications and software engineers that only know how to string together lines of code but not an inkling on how a user would actually interact with the system means we will never see a quantum leap in performance.
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Re: SOTA

Post by Jeggo » Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:43 pm

Mercedes seems to be the first company who realizes, that processing power could only be replaced with more processing power. The current result is the MBUX system.
Which seems to be quite fast and reliable...
Systems from other manufacturers are more or less several years old, when they actually hit the car, with a performance, that was good several years ago. But now it is old fashioned and slow.
For smaller cars, it is a good attempt to use as much processing power as possible from the smartphone and only deliver a screen and some kind of input device.

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Re: SOTA

Post by Chewy » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:08 pm

Of course faster hardware will help, but poorly coded software is the core of the problem.

Back in my early days we were coding in “pure assembler” language, the language closest to the language the processor speaks in. We could make a Sinclair Spectrum Interface perform far better than the Jaguar Interface performs today. “Lazy” high level programming languages with practically no memory limitations has led to the state of the industry now. “Software” engineers of today don’t really understand the hardware on which they are working. In the eighties you had to fully understand every aspect of the hardware and go and buy the source code of the operating system you were working on.

OS developers tend to be the best. But you also need software engineers that actually understand what the product does from a user point of view. Even the base Panasonic system is too complicated in its structure. If you get a chance have a look at the new BMW i3 Interface that uses a similar format screen.
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Re: SOTA

Post by Chewy » Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:09 pm

Duplicate post - deleted.
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Re: SOTA

Post by jason.birchall » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:04 pm

I'm now appreciating Tesla's approach to building their own software and UI, they seem to have nailed software updates. The performance Model Y with 7 seats layout really has my attention.
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Re: SOTA

Post by Chewy » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:10 pm

jason.birchall wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:04 pm
I'm now appreciating Tesla's approach to building their own software and UI, they seem to have nailed software updates. The performance Model Y with 7 seats layout really has my attention.
Agree with you on Tesla software approach. I was rather surprised to learn that Jaguar had taken on a third party system - not enough research on my part :-(

Tesla has the software bit of an EV nailed, but the car bit?
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Re: SOTA

Post by Goshdarnit » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:20 pm

I suspect by the time the Model Y is released in the UK we’ll all be travelling by teleport.
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Re: SOTA

Post by Chewy » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:46 pm

Goshdarnit wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:20 pm
I suspect by the time the Model Y is released in the UK we’ll all be travelling by teleport.
:-)
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