I-PACE Technical Assistance: Software Updates

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FENorway
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Re: I-PACE Technical Assistance: Software Updates

Post by FENorway » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:15 pm

sciencegeek wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:59 pm
Snoerd wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:58 pm
Billy Bunter wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:51 pm
It’s too easy to criticise one aspect if you choose to ignore the other impacts. The only sensible discussion includes all factors together. It is inevitable that different customers will have different priorities, so opinions of the result8ng compromises will also differ.
For me it is clear: I only fast charge a few times a year. So the faster, the better and those few times won't hurt the battery too much. Or do it like Tesla. Limit fast charging when used too often.
exactly
Same for me.
I probably need a 2C charge rate at most 10 times a year.
It would be nice to have that. For those who fast charge every day it could be restricted. Like Tesla...
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Re: I-PACE Technical Assistance: Software Updates

Post by Goshdarnit » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:59 pm

Snoerd wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:58 pm
Billy Bunter wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:51 pm
It’s too easy to criticise one aspect if you choose to ignore the other impacts. The only sensible discussion includes all factors together. It is inevitable that different customers will have different priorities, so opinions of the result8ng compromises will also differ.
For me it is clear: I only fast charge a few times a year. So the faster, the better and those few times won't hurt the battery too much. Or do it like Tesla. Limit fast charging when used too often.
Tesla owners who use superchargers a lot are suffering with much greater battery degradation than those who don’t. Tesla’s only limit fast charging when used too often on one trip, not when used too often in general.
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Re: I-PACE Technical Assistance: Software Updates

Post by mortstar » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:29 pm

Billy Bunter wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:51 pm
these LG pouch batteries are individually specified to 2C, but that doesn’t take account of the module/package configuration.
That spec also includes 1000 cycles with a 20% loss of capacity, so again it’s a question of what is wanted ?

a) a car that charges at 2C, with a battery that degrades to 80% (or the 70% warranty level) of capacity in its lifetime or
b) a car that charges slower via battery charge management, with a much lower degradation

It’s too easy to criticise one aspect if you choose to ignore the other impacts. The only sensible discussion includes all factors together. It is inevitable that different customers will have different priorities, so opinions of the result8ng compromises will also differ.
Or...

Treat customers like adults and allow them to make the decsions. Is it beyond the wit of man to have an option like.

During rapid charge of batteries prioritise:
- Health of battery (charging speed will be reduced - overall battery health will be decreased less)
- Charging speed (charging speed will be increased - overall battery health will be decreased more)


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Re: I-PACE Technical Assistance: Software Updates

Post by Billy Bunter » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:57 pm

mortstar wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:29 pm
Billy Bunter wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:51 pm
these LG pouch batteries are individually specified to 2C, but that doesn’t take account of the module/package configuration.
That spec also includes 1000 cycles with a 20% loss of capacity, so again it’s a question of what is wanted ?

a) a car that charges at 2C, with a battery that degrades to 80% (or the 70% warranty level) of capacity in its lifetime or
b) a car that charges slower via battery charge management, with a much lower degradation

It’s too easy to criticise one aspect if you choose to ignore the other impacts. The only sensible discussion includes all factors together. It is inevitable that different customers will have different priorities, so opinions of the result8ng compromises will also differ.
Or...

Treat customers like adults and allow them to make the decsions. Is it beyond the wit of man to have an option like.

During rapid charge of batteries prioritise:
- Health of battery (charging speed will be reduced - overall battery health will be decreased less)
- Charging speed (charging speed will be increased - overall battery health will be decreased more)
you’re right...... I suspect JLR have rolled out a very constrained system (just like Tesla did originally). Hopefully the system will gradually expand in capability so that us users can make these choices in future without the current restrictions....
Order on hold hoping for improvements......
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Re: I-PACE Technical Assistance: Software Updates . H159v4 release note

Post by emgf » Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:47 pm

Pete wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:18 pm
You can hope.. but will not happen.
I got H159v4 installed today and managed to see the release note from the dealer :
It says that the car can charge at 100 KW and beyond from SoC 0% to SoC 50%
It does not say what happens beyond SoC 50%
It concludes explaining that globally from SoC 0% to SoC 80% the charging speed increases by 15%
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Re: I-PACE Technical Assistance: Software Updates

Post by emgf » Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:53 pm

Tophe74 wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:07 pm
emgf wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:46 pm
The situation can be better since I got 18D 3 weeks ago and 14.2 4 months ago .
I believe what is happening is that a dealer does not want to spend too much time upgrading a tricky EV, therefore when Tophe 74 suspension was
changed there was no more time to do the upgrades.
When I left my car at the dealer I clearly told them to do the SOTA and 100kw update that was in topic's note. They told me that they ll do all the update available on my car. But after they told me that only battery software update was available .... They clearly don't want to takes risks to put update that their system is not proposing for my car.
I got the following upgrades today :
- H159v4
- H193
- S18D_18.47.5-269316
But I could not get the new Infotainment S19A nor telematics 15.2
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Re: I-PACE Technical Assistance: Software Updates

Post by Jelle v/d Meer » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:31 pm

emgf wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:53 pm
I got the following upgrades today :
- H159v4
- H193
- S18D_18.47.5-269316
But I could not get the new Infotainment S19A nor telematics 15.2
That is odd - I got Telematics 15.2 end of January.

Looking forward to hear of your experiences charging with H159v4 if that is really 100kW and if it keeps 100kW to near 80% SoC.

What is H193?
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Re: I-PACE Technical Assistance: Software Updates

Post by alex_haddock » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:56 pm

Jelle v/d Meer wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:31 pm
emgf wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:53 pm
I got the following upgrades today :
- H159v4
- H193
- S18D_18.47.5-269316
But I could not get the new Infotainment S19A nor telematics 15.2
That is odd - I got Telematics 15.2 end of January.

Looking forward to hear of your experiences charging with H159v4 if that is really 100kW and if it keeps 100kW to near 80% SoC.

What is H193?
All seems pretty varied then! My car arrived with 14.2 and 18D, when I was away and getting dashcam fitted asked them if they could update to 19A and 15.2 if they had time. They updated me to 19A but said 15.2 wasn’t available for my car.

No idea what battery management I’m on (is there any way to check outside of asking the dealer?). Not a burning issue for me due to lack of 100kw anywhere near me in UK.
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Re: I-PACE Technical Assistance: Software Updates

Post by jason.birchall » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:42 pm

We're on 14.2 and 18.c, our screens crashes whilst driving today and LPM would not engage, hoping software update will resolve.
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Re: I-PACE Technical Assistance: Software Updates

Post by demaarten » Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:26 pm

My screens are also Black since this afternoon. 14.2 s18D version. I have the car 5 days!!! What a software mess...
Also no communication with the car since the black screens. And jaguar assistance button does nothing...


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