Autocar: Driving the Jaguar I-Pace from London to Frankfurt

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Autocar: Driving the Jaguar I-Pace from London to Frankfurt

Post by fa147 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:49 pm

Seems a positive review and journalist is unbiased enough...

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/feat ... -frankfurt
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Re: Autocar: Driving the Jaguar I-Pace from London to Frankfurt

Post by IRace » Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:08 pm

No mention of charging at Eurotunnel. Anybody has any experience with this?


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Re: Autocar: Driving the Jaguar I-Pace from London to Frankfurt

Post by Chewy » Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:18 pm

"The cost was low, too. At €8 per charge, total energy costs were £64 for 1064 miles. A 50mpg diesel car would have cost twice that. Time is a concern, though. Seven hours were taken up by charging, but smarter planning might reduce that. "

The Diesel would have done it with one 10 minute fueling stop.

Depends how much time is worth to you. Personally, I would gladly give up £64 if it gave me 7 hours more with my family.

I am sure Garry did a similar trip that he posted on YouTube. Not sure how much time he spent charging? I wouldn't have thought it was 7 hours.
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Re: Autocar: Driving the Jaguar I-Pace from London to Frankfurt

Post by fa147 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:07 am

Chewy wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:18 pm
"The cost was low, too. At €8 per charge, total energy costs were £64 for 1064 miles. A 50mpg diesel car would have cost twice that. Time is a concern, though. Seven hours were taken up by charging, but smarter planning might reduce that. "

The Diesel would have done it with one 10 minute fueling stop.

Depends how much time is worth to you. Personally, I would gladly give up £64 if it gave me 7 hours more with my family.

I am sure Garry did a similar trip that he posted on YouTube. Not sure how much time he spent charging? I wouldn't have thought it was 7 hours.
Well I guess with an EV you have to adapt your ways so that you stop at a charging location to charge both you and the car, not stop at a charging station to just charge the car and then a little while further down the road, do the same for the driver...

This is something that we EV drivers begin to learn (that being the key that we begin to learn) when we transition from ICE to EV. Someone who is an ICE driver, doesn't know better and so makes the classic mistakes of either always charging from 5-95% or stopping twice were once would have been enough with some planning.

Nonetheless, the tone of the article was positive and a fair few these days simply end with "its crap, wait another 10 years!!".
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Re: Autocar: Driving the Jaguar I-Pace from London to Frankfurt

Post by wh05apk » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:50 am

I think the point is that if you do a 1000 mile trip regularly, an ev is not for you (yet) but for the 99.9% of people who don't do this an ev is ideal.


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Re: Autocar: Driving the Jaguar I-Pace from London to Frankfurt

Post by Albion » Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:49 am

IRace wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:08 pm
No mention of charging at Eurotunnel. Anybody has any experience with this?
They don't match the I-Pace on both terminals .
Useless chargers .


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Re: Autocar: Driving the Jaguar I-Pace from London to Frankfurt

Post by anorak » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:58 am

Chewy wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:18 pm
"The cost was low, too. At €8 per charge, total energy costs were £64 for 1064 miles. A 50mpg diesel car would have cost twice that. Time is a concern, though. Seven hours were taken up by charging, but smarter planning might reduce that. "

The Diesel would have done it with one 10 minute fueling stop.

Depends how much time is worth to you. Personally, I would gladly give up £64 if it gave me 7 hours more with my family.

I am sure Garry did a similar trip that he posted on YouTube. Not sure how much time he spent charging? I wouldn't have thought it was 7 hours.
If you can physically do 1064 miles with just one 10 minute stop Chewy you're a better man than I am......

In all seriousness though it seems to me that this trip could have been managed with just 4 charging stops, not 8. In legs of 3(ish) hours driving with an hour stop after each.
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Re: Autocar: Driving the Jaguar I-Pace from London to Frankfurt

Post by Chewy » Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:21 pm

anorak wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:58 am
Chewy wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:18 pm
"The cost was low, too. At €8 per charge, total energy costs were £64 for 1064 miles. A 50mpg diesel car would have cost twice that. Time is a concern, though. Seven hours were taken up by charging, but smarter planning might reduce that. "

The Diesel would have done it with one 10 minute fueling stop.

Depends how much time is worth to you. Personally, I would gladly give up £64 if it gave me 7 hours more with my family.

I am sure Garry did a similar trip that he posted on YouTube. Not sure how much time he spent charging? I wouldn't have thought it was 7 hours.
If you can physically do 1064 miles with just one 10 minute stop Chewy you're a better man than I am......

In all seriousness though it seems to me that this trip could have been managed with just 4 charging stops, not 8. In legs of 3(ish) hours driving with an hour stop after each.
Totally agree. I can manage about 2hours now between stops before my leg demands a rest.

I was not trying to say that 1,000 miles of driving continuously with only one stop for 10 mins is sensible, merely that it is possible with an ICE. The driver in this case could quite easily have driven the outbound trip without any need to stop for fueling. When he arrived he could have fueled up, taking only ten minutes then carried out his days work and returned with no further requirement to stop for fueling.

Driving an EV on long haul trips is always going to take longer than the same trip with an ICE. However, as the vast majority of driving is not this sort of trip, an EV offers substantial savings on fuel costs. Over the lifetime of an EV, compared to an ICE, there will also be very good environmental advantages.

Not quite sure what they will do with depleted Lithium batteries yet, as there is currently no commercially available way of recycling them.
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Re: Autocar: Driving the Jaguar I-Pace from London to Frankfurt

Post by scm » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:54 pm

Chewy wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:21 pm
I can manage about 2hours now between stops before my leg demands a rest.
My bladder gives up long before my legs! :?


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Re: Autocar: Driving the Jaguar I-Pace from London to Frankfurt

Post by Areofoil » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:11 pm

What's the recommended charge cycle, charge to 80% and drive on to the next one?


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