WLTP decreased

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hanschbe
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WLTP decreased

Post by hanschbe » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:54 am

Jaguar site now says 292 miles WLTP range. It used to be 298. Any idea what happened?


FENorway
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Re: WLTP decreased

Post by FENorway » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:16 am

They veryfied it with the latest software? The final one..


Gdank
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Re: WLTP decreased

Post by Gdank » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:19 am

Final production figures.

I'm sure someone will moan about 6 miles difference, but in reality it's nothing as EPA mater more, and that's around 220.


Bart
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Re: WLTP decreased

Post by Bart » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:55 am

If the update results in a "decreased real world WLTP" of 292 miles / 470 km I am as happy as can be!


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Re: WLTP decreased

Post by Tophe74 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:06 am

Ev range is so much depending of your driving style (like ice but nobody cares because can refuel fast and everywhere), that i prefer to wait i drive one to do my own opinion.
To many differents results on the web.
Anyway eange is important but not the only criteria for me to chose the i pace.


hanschbe
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Re: WLTP decreased

Post by hanschbe » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:11 am

Bart wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:55 am
If the update results in a "decreased real world WLTP" of 292 miles / 470 km I am as happy as can be!
No such thing as a "real world WLTP". I assume with production ready software, these are the final lab results.


Snoerd
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Re: WLTP decreased

Post by Snoerd » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:41 am

WLTP gives at least a good (better) indication of range to be expected. And of course, a higher (average) speed than during WLTP test (like continuous driving on highway) has a bigger impact on the actual range of vehicles like the i-Pace than on the range of a model S or Kona that are more aerodynamic. On the contrary, driving only at the most efficient speed should result in better figures than WLTP and unfortunately nobody could reproduce that yet in real life tests. So I hope these "final" figures are for real and can be reproduced and I hope that Jaguar didn't find a trick to optimize for WLTP test only (like 100% battery drain during the test which would normally cause serious damage to the battery and can't be done in real life situations...).
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Bart
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Re: WLTP decreased

Post by Bart » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:05 pm

Fully agree.

Till now, nobody has show that the I-pace is able to drive the WLTP 480 (or 470) km, even when driving as economic as possible. There is such a thing as "real world" range, and if they claim a WLTP of 470, it should be possible (real world), one way or the other. Else, I guess, JRL can expect a lot of cancellations...


Gdank
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Re: WLTP decreased

Post by Gdank » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:14 pm

Bart wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:05 pm
Fully agree.

Till now, nobody has show that the I-pace is able to drive the WLTP 480 (or 470) km, even when driving as economic as possible. There is such a thing as "real world" range, and if they claim a WLTP of 470, it should be possible (real world), one way or the other. Else, I guess, JRL can expect a lot of cancellations...
Top Gear Magazine HAS proven 470km (292 Miles) with a few battery %'s to spare.


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Re: WLTP decreased

Post by FENorway » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:48 pm

Gdank wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:14 pm
Bart wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:05 pm
Fully agree.

Till now, nobody has show that the I-pace is able to drive the WLTP 480 (or 470) km, even when driving as economic as possible. There is such a thing as "real world" range, and if they claim a WLTP of 470, it should be possible (real world), one way or the other. Else, I guess, JRL can expect a lot of cancellations...
Top Gear Magazine HAS proven 470km (292 Miles) with a few battery %'s to spare.
TopGears test was an extreme hypermiling experiment. WLTP isn' t about hypermiling. With other cars WLTP is easy achievable during summer (15-25°c) with AC on country roads. Not motorway 110+ of course. An e-Golf fx has 219 km WLTP. Driving an e-Golf 250 km in the summer is easy.


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