MY21 and onwards models have a different DC charging curve compared to previous models. Is it faster? Yes and no .... it's faster (under the right battery temperature control conditions) in the range 10-60% more or less, but it's slower at higher SOC. In other words, 10 to 80% will take about the same time but shorter range charging sessions can be faster by some minutes.

There is nothing you can do on a MY19 or MY20 model unfortunately as far as I know there is no update to have the different DC charging curve of later models.

 

That behaviour is fairly typical for mine at FastNed, mine tends to start at around 120Kwh at ultra rapid chargers when warm, there is not a restriction to 100Kwh.

 

I've had both and yes the MY21 definitely charges faster than the 2019 we had for the times we've charged.
I find the MY21 gets up to speed quicker and stays higher than I was experiencing, up to 80% anyway not been above that yet in the new one.. best regards

 

It obviously drops off at 80% as does every EV, I usually manage from 3% to 100% in about an hour though

 

Thanks for all the quick responses.
Glad to hear that JLR has at least done a little in this department over the last few years.


Does anyone know if this is just due to the software version or is there more to it than that?

 

A little of topic but perhaps nice to have a little reference.
When I was talking to the owner of the 2022 I-Pace (we chatted for over an hour actually), there were also two BMW i4 charging on the stall in front of us. Both BMW were doing around 75 kW at around 50% SOC.
Given the fact that officially the i4 can charge much faster than the I-Pace, I think the 2022 I-Pace wasn't doing so bad at all.

 

In order to objectively compare the charging rates, the battery temperature and starting SoC have to be the same. The iPace is particularly susceptible to cold gating. The i4 will precondition the battery en route to a HPC in cold conditions when set as destination in the Nav as long as it has enough SoC left (same as Tesla and a few other brands). I have seen it at Ionity here in winter, the i4 drawing 150 kW at 30-40% and the iPace struggling at 50-70 kW for a similar SoC.

 

I think the hardware in the first version of the ipace is able to take 120kw in best condition but JLR (via software) caps it at 102kw after the warranty négociations with LG. When Audi released the etron in 2019 (with the same tech in their battery as the ipace) with a peak at 150kw, there were rumors that JLR will unlock the charging rate limit. Never happened….

 

is there no chance to program higher Speed?

 

I can confirm a 2019 model goes beyond 100kW for some stages in the charging process.
Haven't been digging into how, when and why.

Frankly I tend to use the smaller 50kW charger. Nowadays they are available because everyone rushes to the 300kW.
I see no reason to fry the battery for a few minutes of waiting.

 

I did remeber we already had this conversation ..... :

MY21 charging speed

Yesterday I had the opportunity to test a brand new HPC charging station Enel X has installed in Rome some 5 km from my home. It's made of 4 Tritium 350kw charger so it's very like a Ionity station. I arrived with 20% Soc (I know, I should got there with a lower SOC for a more extended test) and...

www.ipaceforums.co.uk

 

the iPace held onto 105Kwh for most of this quick charge, quicker than I needed to pee (wash hands) and get some chips at McD for the completion of my journey anyway...

 

Please tell me that was the time spent charging to 40% and not the actual time. Or did you really just spend ten and a half hours going from 20% to 40%?

What percentage were you when you plugged in?

 

20% after 7mins, total time 17:30 mins stopped at 40%, not sure where 10 hours could be spent at Leeming Bar!

 

It's pretty much best case for an I-Pace. I knew the I-Pace had poor rapid charging but my driving profile does not include much need for rapid charging. When it does I would be stopping for a minumum of 30 - 45 minutes anyway.

In the past three years of EV ownership I have had to use a rapid to complete a journey once. So having super fast 800v charging tech is not a consideration for our needs.

 

Same for me I only probably needed 10Kw to get home so 29Kw in 17mins at an average of 100Kwh is perfect for me, anything quicker and you need to drink less coffees in a day, or be under 30!

 

Statistically the vast majority of people only do long distance trips one or two times a year. The total time spent on a rapid for such people is insignificant. Paradoxically many people base their EV purchasing choices purely on the fact they might save 40 minutes charging at a rapid once or twice a year. Then when they do a longer distance trip where these attributes matter, they end up stopping for an hour anyway.

Like the colleague who bought an Ioniq 5 instead of the ID.4 he and his wife preferred for styling, because the Ioniq 5 could rapid charge in 15 minutes instead of 35. Then on their only family road trip in over a year, he was boasting that his Ioniq 5 was ready to go before they had even finished their lunch. I asked how long he stopped for and without a hint of irony he said they stopped for about an hour to eat and let the kids play in the nearby play-park. I laughed when he said he had to unplug his fully charged Ioniq 5 after 45 minutes to prevent an overstay fee. I also pointed out that he he had essentially hogged a 350kW charger for 30 extra minutes.

 

Charged my wife's 2019 i-pace this weekend, 180kw charger, arrived with little over 20% 33degree battery and managed 66kw
My tesla lease is up in 8 months now and thinking of coming back to an i-pace, 2022 or 2023 model, hoped it would charge a bit quicker, but for the occasional distance i go, wont need it.

 

Charged my wife's 2019 i-pace this weekend, 180kw charger, arrived with little over 20% 33degree battery and managed 66kw
My tesla lease is up in 8 months now and thinking of coming back to an i-pace, 2022 or 2023 model, hoped it would charge a bit quicker, but for the occasional distance i go, wont need it.

If you consistently seem to cap at ~60kw speeds at various fast chargers take it to a dealer. Mine had that and needed a software update to one of the modules to fix it. Now charges at ~120kw in ideal conditions.

 

In have seen 80KW a couple of times under ideal conditions, generally if you get 50kw it’s good

 

I saw over 80 at a Tesla with only me on Friday. When I came back it was under 40 with 6/8 occupied. Average was 66kwh for 34kw delivered.

I assumed that the local transformer is going to have less available as usage increase. It's nominally 150kwh but I doubt there is 1200 kwh available and that was the drop off.

 

After H441 update was applied to car (l'm now at BV version), my car charges faster at the 150kW and 350kW chargers here. It now consistently charges at 104-108kW peak when starting at less than 30% SOC and maintains it up to 40% SOC before dropping down to 8xkW rate and tapering down after 82-84% SOC during summer months.

Newer cars are reported to get up to 10kW higher initial charging rates.