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Scheduling a charge period - won't work ?

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#1 ·
Just can't get this function to work - have tried the latest Jag in-control App, and the previous version. Also tried setting it up with the car software. Alas set up the schedules, connect charger, and it starts charging before then time scheduled. Apart from that the iPace is brilliant.

Anyhow what am I doing wrong ?
 
#4 ·
You need a departure time set, plus timed charging. With both of these options set, when you switch off the car you see a goodbye screen, this asks you if you want to enable timed charging, simply press the accept or yes and depart the car and plug in. I then see a blue flashing led and it wont charge until my set times.
 
#7 ·
I don't know what I'm doing right, but timed charging works for me without needing Goshdarnit's workaround. I simply use the timed charging app that came with my charger (Andersen) and leave the car alone. It starts charging at 1230 and turns off at 0430 each night. No issues and no complications. I have 19A and I don't have H228 as my car is too new for this patch. Does anyone else find that timed charging works with a smart charger?
 
#8 ·
bluenun said:
I don't know what I'm doing right, but timed charging works for me without needing Goshdarnit's workaround. I simply use the timed charging app that came with my charger (Andersen) and leave the car alone. It starts charging at 1230 and turns off at 0430 each night. No issues and no complications. I have 19A and I don't have H228 as my car is too new for this patch. Does anyone else find that timed charging works with a smart charger?
Yeah, you probably haven't read it but I've stated this elsewhere previously but that video already existed before I had h228. After h228 my car started working as yours does. So now I do what you do. However there are still some people for whom timed charging doesn't work from the charger (we have not yet worked out why that is) and still have to use the video method. Also, many people have chargers without a timer function so again they would need to use the video technique.
 
#9 ·
Timed charging does not work at all on my car setting departing time 2days ahead switch option on when leaving. Plug in the cable and blue led goes on closed the car and withi. 1 min it start charging anyway. Even more strange I pause the charging via app and then I noticed every 5 min the car starts charging at very low speed 0.8KW and then stops again this repeats continuously so my only option is to unplug and plug in cable at hour I want to start as my home charger not have timed charging option.
 
#11 ·
That's been driving me mad 😡 for months!

So basically I followed GD's very good video to the letter - even using same departure time! - got the blue flashing lights and all good.
Octopus 🐙 energy is a 3rd of the price off peak. So 66% reduction in 'fuel' costs too good to miss.

Anyway, every time I attempt timed charging it starts before scheduled time set inside car. Blue flashing- great.
App says timed charging set - brilliant.
Check 30 minutes later and it's draining full priced peak electricity! AAAAGHH!!

SOOOOOO...... my big mistake was to check app to see if was paused??? Seems counterintuitive much?

I'll try again tonight and lock my phone away.
 
#12 ·
Irons1966 said:
That's been driving me mad 😡 for months!

So basically I followed GD's very good video to the letter - even using same departure time! - got the blue flashing lights and all good.
Octopus 🐙 energy is a 3rd of the price off peak. So 66% reduction in 'fuel' costs too good to miss.

Anyway, every time I attempt timed charging it starts before scheduled time set inside car. Blue flashing- great.
App says timed charging set - brilliant.
Check 30 minutes later and it's draining full priced peak electricity! AAAAGHH!!

SOOOOOO...... my big mistake was to check app to see if was paused??? Seems counterintuitive much?

I'll try again tonight and lock my phone away.
I've definitely checked the app before without the car starting to charge. Maybe try setting a later departure time of 23:00. I switched to using 23:00 after making the video and the car always charged as per the preferred charging schedule.
 
#13 ·
Thanks GD.
I've tried while 80-90% already charged.
Attempted it say 12:30-4:30 Wednesday morning and precondition at 18:30 Wednesday evening. So , in other words, car knows it has plenty of time to reach 100% SOC.

Seems strange that just checking app would override what you've already 'told' the car, as other than keep popping outside until 12:30 how will you know it's working as it should.
I'll do it again tonight. I think I'm in about 88% and will set precondition at 23:00 Saturday night..... let's see what happens.
I'm on 19a and have had car since November 2018. Seriously hacked off JLR can't sort out timed charging yet via the app.
 
#14 ·
Irons1966 said:
Thanks GD.
I've tried while 80-90% already charged.
Attempted it say 12:30-4:30 Wednesday morning and precondition at 18:30 Wednesday evening. So , in other words, car knows it has plenty of time to reach 100% SOC.

Seems strange that just checking app would override what you've already 'told' the car, as other than keep popping outside until 12:30 how will you know it's working as it should.
I'll do it again tonight. I think I'm in about 88% and will set precondition at 23:00 Saturday night..... let's see what happens.
I'm on 19a and have had car since November 2018. Seriously hacked off JLR can't sort out timed charging yet via the app.
In fact you can see about 19:30 in to the video that I check the app and the car stays on timed charging. You're not the first to experience this though. Maybe try 23:00. I also heard someone else comment that they set it for the day after "tomorrow" and it worked for them. Not a behaviour I've ever experienced so I can't say for sure but maybe try both and see if either helps.
 
#15 ·
Irons1966 said:
Thanks GD.
I've tried while 80-90% already charged.
Attempted it say 12:30-4:30 Wednesday morning and precondition at 18:30 Wednesday evening. So , in other words, car knows it has plenty of time to reach 100% SOC.

Seems strange that just checking app would override what you've already 'told' the car, as other than keep popping outside until 12:30 how will you know it's working as it should.
I'll do it again tonight. I think I'm in about 88% and will set precondition at 23:00 Saturday night..... let's see what happens.
I'm on 19a and have had car since November 2018. Seriously hacked off JLR can't sort out timed charging yet via the app.
I've been using the GD video method since he made it, months ago, it has never failed yet for me, (departure time set at 18.00hrs the following day no matter what my SOC is) but I never check the app, so just be confident in that it works without keep checking. I have tried lots of other methods just using my charger to set up timed charging and that has always failed since my first 14.2 to 16.2 update, and that is despite recent software updates etc which are supposed to help.
 
#16 ·
Oh well, tried it again tonight (yesterday now).
Set it to come on 00:30-04:30. ✅
Precondition Saturday (next day) at 23:00 ✅
Turned car off pressed 'yes' on screen for timed charging. ✅
Plugged in and got white flashing LED followed by blue ✅ locked car and went inside. &#x1f64f-1f3fc;
Checked app (couldn't help myself, how else do I know from the house it's working). 🤔
App said waiting to charge. ✅
10 minutes later app said was charging about 12:15. 🤬&#x1f926-1f3fd-2642;

Long story short, seems like whatever department time I use it still charges shortly after plugging in.

Absolutely NO other problems with the car. I love it. Great looking, fantastic to drive, and puts a small on my face every time I sit in it.
 
#18 ·
Irons1966 said:
Oh well, tried it again tonight (yesterday now).
Set it to come on 00:30-04:30. ✅
Precondition Saturday (next day) at 23:00 ✅
Turned car off pressed 'yes' on screen for timed charging. ✅
Plugged in and got white flashing LED followed by blue ✅ locked car and went inside. &#x1f64f-1f3fc;
Checked app (couldn't help myself, how else do I know from the house it's working). 🤔
App said waiting to charge. ✅
10 minutes later app said was charging about 12:15. 🤬&#x1f926-1f3fd-2642;

Long story short, seems like whatever department time I use it still charges shortly after plugging in.

Absolutely NO other problems with the car. I love it. Great looking, fantastic to drive, and puts a small on my face every time I sit in it.
I did the same as you last night, as I always do when setting up timed charging, and it worked fine again. What versions of the software are you on?
 
#19 ·
I'm on S19A and H228. I know S19B is out there somewhere but my infotainment system assured me I'm up to date every time I check.

Tbh had no other major problems, this one issue grinds me though as it's costing me money and surely has to be better for the grid if I charge overnight?

Annoying thing is, last November I happily batted away paying the extra £20 for a wall box with a timer, insisting to the fitter and scoffing that this was not needed in a car with such market leading advanced tech!
At least that's what it said in the brochure 🤨
 
#20 ·
Irons1966 said:
I'm on S19A and H228. I know S19B is out there somewhere but my infotainment system assured me I'm up to date every time I check.

Tbh had no other major problems, this one issue grinds me though as it's costing me money and surely has to be better for the grid if I charge overnight?

Annoying thing is, last November I happily batted away paying the extra £20 for a wall box with a timer, insisting to the fitter and scoffing that this was not needed in a car with such market leading advanced tech!
At least that's what it said in the brochure 🤨
It's not to say a charger with timed charging will work with yours. I have a Wallbox Pulsar, paid extra as it has a few extra features but mainly timed charging. When I first got the car it worked fine just from the charger, then I was forced to have an update due to the BSOD problem, it stopped working after that. I then started using Goshdarnits video method and it works fine again. But even though GD and I have the same charger, he can charge straight from the charger with timed charging set up, but I can't, so go figure, why is that?

It's very annoying that some cars with the same software updates and same chargers work differently, nothing is consistent at all, it's the same when using rapid chargers Ecotricity etc, some cars charge fine others don't.

I have no idea what the problem is with your car at all, but I do appreciate how frustrating it is when others seem to have no problems despite the same set up.

Might be worth you updating to S19B, but no one can say whether that will resolve your problems or not unfortunately,
 
#21 ·
Good Morning

Please find below, some helpful information for our customers in regards to the topic for this thread.

For Timed Charging to work effectively, please ensure that it has been activated on the vehicle, this simple check should be carried out every time that you wish to use the Timed Charging feature.

When scheduling a charge period for your I-PACE, it is advantageous to be aware that if the scheduled charge period does not allow for a full charge to 100% (i.e not a long enough period of time) then the vehicle will override the scheduled charge time and proceed to charge immediately. This is to ensure that the vehicle has had adequate time to charge.

Please ensure that when you are selecting your charge time window, that you allow for this, and that a long enough window is chosen for the vehicle to reach 100% charge during this period.

Further to this, the Goodbye screen can be used to activate Timed Charging. However, this screen will only present itself if the vehicle has moved from it's current location since its last journey.

Should you have any questions or concerns, or would like to discuss any of the information presented above. Please do not hesitate to contact me.

Jaguar UK appreciates all of the advice and comments that our customers provide.

Many Thanks

Dan - Jaguar UK
 
#22 ·
Also when I say that the car starts charging from going into the app, I meant to say if you try to add another time, I was adding departure times and my car then started charging.

It wasn't just checking that it was paused, I can do that fine.
 
#23 ·
Thanks Dan. So to confirm I can use timed charging only on cheap rate alone (4 hours) if I'm already on circa 80% of charge?
This would seem odd given that most people tend to charge when <60% ?

Are you sure this is correct?

Ideally I'd like to keep my car around 80% SOC and make it easy on the National Grid by doing this off peak as much as possible.

If this is the case, the initial sales blurb was at very least misleading, do you agree?
 
#26 ·
This is such a common and reoccurring complaint, and has existed since the IPace was first introduced, that is is VERY frustrating that Jaguar hasn't fixed this yet. It really should not be that difficult. We know this because all of us who came over from having a Tesla know that is literally a 10 second procedure in a Tesla. And it works EVERY time (but believe me, even with the issues we all know about, I am very glad to be in the IPace instead of the MS).

The whole charging procedure is needlessly complicated in the IPace, beginning with the fact that the charging functions in the car are NOT to be found under a button called "Charging", but under "Preconditioning". Why not label the button "Charging"??!! I was a fairly early adaptor to the IPace (2019), coming from years with a Tesla, so I was definitely not a novice EV user, and I can't stress enough how frustrating it was trying to figure this issue out. As I said in a Tesla, you just hit the button labeled "Charging", then scroll to "Timed Charging", set the start time and the stop time, and any charging limit that you may want. That is it. And it works flawlessly.

The ONLY fix that works simply and every time with the IPace is with a smart home charger that allows you to set the times within the charger itself and not rely on the car. NO need to remember to jump through all the "preconditioning" time baloney every time you charge your car at home. We should be able to set the times we want, ONE TIME, and just plug in after that. For most EV users this is a fairly important feature because the savings can be pretty substantial with timed charging. For the life of me I cannot figure out why it hasn't been fixed by Jaguar.