[ZaphodBeeblebrox]

I need to mess about I think. What you have is what I want, I probably had a route set in ICTP which may be why it disappeared from the panel.

 

[jeffreycooper1963]

Well in terms of wether people want them, mine has now been reserved at the dealers - if it's someone on here, please tell them I sent you - a commission of £10 will get me a pint for which I'd be grateful !!

 

[HarryTheGingerCat]

I

Well in terms of wether people want them, mine has now been reserved at the dealers - if it's someone on here, please tell them I sent you - a commission of £10 will get me a pint for which I'd be grateful !!

I got a pint of hand pull for 1.80 in spoons last Wednesday.

 

[Steevh]

I

I got a pint of hand pull for 1.80 in spoons last Wednesday.

I thought you could get locked up for that !! 😲😲😜

 

[stok40]

I had bought a 2019 used in 2020 and after 5 years, I am still enjoying the car. Only problems I've had:

• 2 modules replaced (the dreaded LG battery problem) - fingers crossed, everything has been working fine since then
• 2 times replaced the 12v batteries . This is actually the most troubling defect for me since, when the small 12v dies, you almost lose the braking capability. Frightening.
• some very minor issues not really worth mentioning

After 50k miles, no noticeable battery degradation, no noises, leaks etc

I'm still enjoying the car. But my advice: make sure there is an independent EV specialist near where you live, mainly because:

• they charge 50%, even 20% of what dealership charges for the exact same work
• they KNOW their way around EVs. Dealerships give you the impression that they are clueless in more than 50% of the cases
• it seems to be a general "thing" with almost all EVs: dealerships tend to replace, not fix in 80% of the cases. Meaning that when you are out of warranty, eventually, you may end up paying thousands to replace a part which could have been fixed by an independent EV specialist for 20% of the costs.

If our cars last until around 2030, i am pretty certain that most parts of the car will have aftermarket availability, including the HV battery. Fixing them at a reasonable price won't be a problem anymore.

 

[Delta5]

Congratulations Finland.

Are there ANY competant IPace service Independants in the UK? If so let’s have a list.

 

[Big Dunc]

I have not used them personally, but have heard good things about Cleevely EV.
I used HPC to service my first I Pace. They do not proclaim to be EV specialists. They are a garage dealing mainly with classic cars and sports cars and they are independent Jaguar Specialists. They took over Jagtechnic several years ago. They have also converted an classic old ICE to an EV, so are not scared of the tech.
I am sure that there are others, and more will start up, or more traditional garages will start specialising in EV's. There will be some things that will always require the main dealer, but this is no different to ICE.

 

[ZaphodBeeblebrox]

That's a Greek flag. 🤔

https://hevra.org.uk/ev-garages-near-me/

Have details of members, but the search seems dire and figuring out what they may do is a pain (the couple local to me will do a bit of servicing).

But servicing isn't really the issue. If inclined halfords, kwik fit both do servicing.

Repairs still seems to be difficult. Transporting a broken EV to a repairer looks challenging.

 

[4christinareeves]

Hi ladies and gents. I'm looking for some iPace advice.

I've been a huge fan of the car, and I'm finally able to afford a 2nd hand version, but I'm concerned about reliability and servicing.

Firstly, with jaguar's new global direction I've heard that many jaguar dealerships are closing down, and therefore may not be able to service the vehicle or get parts.

If Jaguar is potentially shutting down, where would I find replacement parts for servicing?

Secondly, I've heard stories about iPaces being stuck in dealerships for over five months because on ongoing issues or lack of parts.

So my question is, is it still worth it? If you were me, would you go ahead and buy one, or get something from another manufacturer instead?

Thanks all, really appreciate the advice.

Chris

I don’t think this is an unfair question to ask at all.
This is a forum and people are giving their opinions all day long

I have the 2020 and it has given me some trouble, but it is the most amazing car to look at and to drive and I am not willing to give up our toxic relationship.

It has never left me stranded just received battery error faults that have been fixed by the dealer.
Other little things that needed repair did not make the car undrivable - yes it took months to get the automatic windshield wiper part, but I just used the windshield wipers manually like most cars

I did have a battery issue almost immediately upon purchase, but there is 100,000 mile battery warranty. at that point the car was in the shop for three months and that was annoying , but I had a loaner.

I love the car, but I know it’s not financially good for me.
I can’t imagine driving another car
Nothing looks or feels like an ipace.

 

[HarryTheGingerCat]

My head told me to run for the hills, my heat transferred the cash over to the dealer

This is the first car that I've said to myself "if this is the last car I own, I'll be happy'

My plan is to keep this for 3 years then chop it in for the newest, lowest mileage and highest spec that I can get my grubby little hands on. The keep it for 3-4 years.

 

[Cornelis]

Hi ladies and gents. I'm looking for some iPace advice.

I've been a huge fan of the car, and I'm finally able to afford a 2nd hand version, but I'm concerned about reliability and servicing.

Firstly, with jaguar's new global direction I've heard that many jaguar dealerships are closing down, and therefore may not be able to service the vehicle or get parts.

If Jaguar is potentially shutting down, where would I find replacement parts for servicing?

Secondly, I've heard stories about iPaces being stuck in dealerships for over five months because on ongoing issues or lack of parts.

So my question is, is it still worth it? If you were me, would you go ahead and buy one, or get something from another manufacturer instead?

Thanks all, really appreciate the advice.

Chris

I only can tell you my experience: I have my i pace for almost 7 years and drove 170.000 km with it, no problems whatsoever, only the 2 12 V batteries changed and of course tires. I hope to drive it another 7 years. The only bad thing is the 1 fase charging.

 

[dllh2012]

Hi ladies and gents. I'm looking for some iPace advice.

I've been a huge fan of the car, and I'm finally able to afford a 2nd hand version, but I'm concerned about reliability and servicing.

Firstly, with jaguar's new global direction I've heard that many jaguar dealerships are closing down, and therefore may not be able to service the vehicle or get parts.

If Jaguar is potentially shutting down, where would I find replacement parts for servicing?

Secondly, I've heard stories about iPaces being stuck in dealerships for over five months because on ongoing issues or lack of parts.

So my question is, is it still worth it? If you were me, would you go ahead and buy one, or get something from another manufacturer instead?

Thanks all, really appreciate the advice.

Chris

The points made on parts are true of mamy cars these days. I waited 6 months for a part for a Mercedes that never came. There are similar issues with Porsche. My advice….. buy from a Jaguar Dealership…. There may be less of them but there will be some of them. Personally I feel a warranty is money well spent. You will no doubt get other brands cheaper. Read What Car and buy with the knowledge that you can research till the cows come home but cars 2nd hand or new are a lottery. All research can do it improve your odds. 😀😀😀

 

[Cavelon]

Hi ladies and gents. I'm looking for some iPace advice.

I've been a huge fan of the car, and I'm finally able to afford a 2nd hand version, but I'm concerned about reliability and servicing.

Firstly, with jaguar's new global direction I've heard that many jaguar dealerships are closing down, and therefore may not be able to service the vehicle or get parts.

If Jaguar is potentially shutting down, where would I find replacement parts for servicing?

Secondly, I've heard stories about iPaces being stuck in dealerships for over five months because on ongoing issues or lack of parts.

So my question is, is it still worth it? If you were me, would you go ahead and buy one, or get something from another manufacturer instead?

Thanks all, really appreciate the advice.

Chris

I have an iPACE 2019 First Edition and I adore it and wouldn't swap it for a newer version. The latest cars have an ugly nose cone reminiscent of an early Model S (my previous car). Jaguar swapped my battery for a new one two months ago as a result of the recall. I'd argue that the steering assist in my car is better than a newer car as my car happily drives itself the 25 miles to York on the carriageway (under my constant watchful eye) without my touching the wheel in most occasions. No OTA nanny updates. Full specification, 29k miles and like new for £18k. It was a gift! No way would I swap for an ugly Tesla M3 or MY. I do also have a Mondeo 2.0 diesel with a 600 mile range for long distance journeys. Next goal is an EQE AMG when the prices drops and there are few with a few miles on them.

 

[TobyYarwood]

I agree with the guy above about saving a lot more money buying a pre-21 facelift. I was very tempted to spend nearly £21,000 on a low mileage three year-old car but I’ve gone for a high mileage five-year-old car for 13 grand instead and a 3yr warranty for £1,350. The insurance is cheap because I’m 57 and I’ve got a great local Jaguar mechanic who works for only £5 more per hour than the warranty pays. So far, it’s amazing. Okay, the entertainment system and main computer seems a bit slow but it works a lot better than my Leaf’s one.

 

[ZaphodBeeblebrox]

@TobyYarwood

Might be worth having a visual check of the starter battery. If it's jag branded it's quite likely original.

In my case voltage etc was ok, but failed the Jag assist chaps check.

My symptom was GPS failed, batteries fixed it, but the ICTP now seems a bit better. The occasional missed button presses seem to have gone and running a bit smoother. Maybe just placebo.

Also I think it's now shutting down properly and wasn't before (not fully certain).

 

[jeffreycooper1963]

This may not exactly be the right thread for this comment, but here goes.

We are all aware of the "huge" depreciation suffered by the I-Pace, but here's a thing. I bought ours for £23K, sold it for £13K, but the dealer has now sold it for £17K - so whats the depreciation exactly - I've lost £10K, but the car has only really lost £6K !!

 

[HarryTheGingerCat]

This may not exactly be the right thread for this comment, but here goes.

We are all aware of the "huge" depreciation suffered by the I-Pace, but here's a thing. I bought ours for £23K, sold it for £13K, but the dealer has now sold it for £17K - so whats the depreciation exactly - I've lost £10K, but the car has only really lost £6K !!

Private sale would have got you more with a little effort. Sold my caddy van recently for 5k. Dealer offered 2.5.

 

[jeffreycooper1963]

Private sale wild have got you more with a little effort. Sold my caddy van recently for 5k. Dealer offered 2.5.

Although I agree, it's hardly an answer to my question !!

 

[HarryTheGingerCat]

Although I agree, it's hardly an answer to my question !!

I think it is really, you answered it yourself. Dealers make huge risks with used cars, so the margins have to be proportional.

 

[ZaphodBeeblebrox]

Although I agree, it's hardly an answer to my question !!

I only saw a statement. 😀

Margins tend to make depreciation feel worse, bearing it is principally a one off sunk cost.

If you'd kept it longer the margin would have had less overall impact on your depreciation.

Of course the margin has to contribute towards the running costs of the business, collection, prep and so on. Not a huge amount left (but enough).

The only valid measure, because it is what impacts and what most do is retail to trade. Of course you can mitigate both ends of this to an extent as @HarryTheGingerCat pointed out. But then the risk profile is different.