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Water Leak finally proven!

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#1 ·
So for about a year now I’ve had an odd water leak that comes and goes and seems to have no pattern of behaviour. It will be there after raining like today and other times not there after raining. It can also be there on Sunny days and clear nights.

About half a cup of water pours on the accelerator (and my foot) when gently moving out of the parking spot at about 2/3mph. When I explain this to anyone they look at me as I’m talking rubbish or mean the roof is leaking. I don’t have any water leaks from the glass panoramic roof or wind shield (luckily) but what I do have is this…
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…on video it’s much more obvious and clear. Please tell me if you can see this and the difference. Thank you.
 
#3 ·
Good morning. I did ask two Jaguar Technicians this and pointed out that it was a possibility and they said no. They said if it was AC it would do it all the time although I remain open to the idea. If it was an AC blockage then reasonably other must be experiencing it?
Initially I was thinking that water is building up some where under the windscreen wipers, sits there a while and then gets released by either a blockage being removed or temperature change.
 
#5 ·
Type "footwell" into the search field. Read several threads. Most likely source of the water is a leaky windscreen seal.

Or Water in the frunk and passenger footwell (Frunk release...
I checked the frunk but it is as it always has been dry as bone.
Both front foot wells are also dry except for the area where the water pours from. I felt up into the area and there are many surfaces in all directions that are dry. I also gently pushed from inside the cabin on the front windshield but it didn’t move a millimetre. The roof also seemed to be firmly in place. There is no light shadow or water staining on the interior ceiling trim either and no sign of dampness. I did remember though that there were a couple of drops of water hanging from curved corner of the metal arm that rotates and pivots, that holds the drivers sun visor in place. I’ve seen this three times in 14 months. I assumed this was condensation from the pano roof that does build up at times. While checking for the leak I also noticed the mild small rust patches on the drivers door hinges that I showed to the dealership on the 1st of June 2022 which they dismissed. Although the hinges are outside of the cabin area I’m wondering if a poor rubber seal higher up is causing that rust on the door hinge pivot pin but also allowing water into the cabin higher up that then travels downwards.
I’m very proactive at solving issues but I dread taking the car to the dealership to listen to the copious amounts of bullshit and “we can’t replicate or find the issue” which translates to we didn’t bother looking.
 
#11 ·
Update to the above. Phoned Jaguar assistance - they sent out the AA and he said the seal had been breached to the right of the windscreen and the water was getting in and down through there.

Just awaiting confirmation from Auto Windscreens when they can fit and hope it’s on site rather than into one of their centres. Asked Jag what happens if any damage occurs on the back of any delay in the replacement and they said it would be covered but I’d have a month or so wait to get booked into the dealer for assessment.
 
#12 ·
Mine turn out to be a "loose water pipe" according to service centre. It seemed reasonable as even when it rained very heavily there were no damp carpets or dripping water. Yet randomly, even on sunny dry days when pulling out of the parking spot water would poor onto my foot. About half a cup.
 
#15 ·
So Auto Windscreens only have 1 specialist in my area on a Monday and the earliest they can carry out the work is 23rd October. I know the work will get done but I don’t think that timeframe is good enough.

I’m not in a position to cover my car when not in use so any further damage to any electrics / carpet could be done until it’s fixed.

It must be annoying for JLR to have to repair / replace interiors due to a third party effectively not having the man power to respond quicker to something like a leaking windscreen.

Quick query but why does the entire windscreen need replacing when it’s down to a seal. Can it not just be resealed for ease and to make it more cost effective?
 
#16 ·
The windscreen has to be removed in order to remove the bad sealing and replace it with new sealant. The windscreen can get scratched or break during the removal process. If the windscreen survives the removal, it has to be cleaned of any residual sealant that came off the car with it. It is not an easy thing to do and time consuming. It is less expensive to replace the windscreen with a new one than to clean the old one. Besides, the old one might be warped and contributing to the original leak.

Any company doing the re-sealing job would want to ensure that the new installation is free of any potential source of a future leak. All new materials are a better bet on that.
 
#17 ·
The windscreen has to be removed in order to remove the bad sealing and replace it with new sealant. The windscreen can get scratched or break during the removal process. If the windscreen survives the removal, it has to be cleaned of any residual sealant that came off the car with it. It is not an easy thing to do and time consuming. It is less expensive to replace the windscreen with a new one than to clean the old one. Besides, the old one might be warped and contributing to the original leak.

Any company doing the re-sealing job would want to ensure that the new installation is free of any potential source of a future leak. All new materials are a better bet on that.
that makes sense. Thank you
 
#18 ·
I’m pretty sure Auto Windscreen Labour rates are going to be a lot less that dealers rates, it’s a very skilled job to remove a screen without breaking it, they would need a new screen on standby in case it did crack. However a screen that is leaking is probably not well attatched and 2 skilled techs would probably complete the job in a couple of hours.
 
#19 ·
When the bonding failed on the windscreen on my car the screen almost fell out it was that loose. When I noticed the leak I did the "two finger test" and was surprised to find that the top of the screen was so loose that I could push it free and see in through the gap to the inside of the car.

I had a screen replaced years ago by Autoglass. Very quick and easy to cut the sealant. They use a thing like a cheesewire, feed the thin wire around the edge of the screen and then tension it to cut through the sealant as if it were butter. Very quick process, took the chap three or four times longer to clean up the remaining sealant on the body as it did to remove the glass.
 
#20 ·
Hi,

This exact thing just happened to me and my I-Pace after heavy rain all night and day. My car is on a slight downward slant and then as I pulled onto the road so it tipped slightly the other way and down again. Then half a cup or so of water splashed onto my foot.
I’m very concerned about this and have never experienced anything like it in a car.
Did you ever get to the bottom of it?
 
#25 ·
Hi all,

Got to the bottom of my wet footwells....where the wings meet the A post there is a gap, I poured water down said gap and hey presto, water started dripping down the side of my trim by the glove box onto the carpet and somewhere behind the pedals drivers side then under the carpets, I am going to try to remove the covers from under the wheel arch to see whats missing or damaged,
Anybody else found this before??
 
#26 ·
My water leaking on my i pace started with the drip of water on my foot when reversing off my drive.. my car is always parked on a slight forward decline when parked at home. Then I started to notice wet floor matts.. I bought my car in Summer so never had much of an issue. Now that we are getting a lot of rain the water in the footwells has become a serious problem, all 4 footwell carpets are absolutely soaking. Iv found no obvious place that the water is coming in from above, the ceiling etc is dry. However I was parking half on the curb at my parents house for a few hours during heavy rain and the passenger side ceiling was soaked with water dripping from centre mirror/ light.. but this has only happened the once when the car was parked on a slant to the right.. seems like there may be multiple area the water is coming in.
 
#31 ·
So for about a year now I’ve had an odd water leak that comes and goes and seems to have no pattern of behaviour. It will be there after raining like today and other times not there after raining. It can also be there on Sunny days and clear nights.

About half a cup of water pours on the accelerator (and my foot) when gently moving out of the parking spot at about 2/3mph. When I explain this to anyone they look at me as I’m talking rubbish or mean the roof is leaking. I don’t have any water leaks from the glass panoramic roof or wind shield (luckily) but what I do have is this… View attachment 8592
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…on video it’s much more obvious and clear. Please tell me if you can see this and the difference. Thank you.
Hi, have you found the source of water ?
 
#33 ·
Hi, yes top half of the window screen was not bonded at build...inspected by Jag, cost £250 for them to say they weren't sure of the leak but screen was an issue but they couldn't confirm and may charge me £1500 to replace it.....went through insurance and they replaced it for £125 no more leaks in 3 months and it has been slightly damp just lately......hope this helps
 
#34 ·
Hi all, I had this issue and around 6-8 months later noticed wet on the drivers inside pillar. Jag diagnosed and then claimed under warranty as I insisted it was a known issue. They replaced the windscreen for free and didn’t charge the £190 diagnosis. For 3 months now we are good with no water issues on the foot. I’ll update if the issue does come back.
 
#37 ·
Update: Only the floor of my footwell is wet - the sides of the footwell aren't affected, which leads me to think that the water isn't draining "down" into the footwell via the A pillar, rather it's somehow coming "up" into the footwell from the floor. I found this video online which seems to show exactly the same symptoms that my car is showing. The car in the video is a LHD car - would the aircon pipe / drain be on the opposite side for a RHD car?
 
#40 ·
I had my car into the local Jaguar dealer today for the tick tock recall fix - at the same time they inspected the car and told me that the windscreen had "deboned" at the top of the drivers side and has to be replaced at a cost of over £1500. (I assume this should have read debonded, not deboned?). If this is the cause of the water in the footwell (and I'm not convinced it is) how come there are no drips to be seen on the dashboard if the leak is at the top of the windscreen? And how does the water make its way into the footwell from there??
 
#41 ·
I had an issue with my vehicle not locking and the alarm going off everytime I tried to lock it. Taken it to a 3rd party jag specialist and they have replaced the door handle and motor as they were wet. Turns out the bonded windscreen has been letting water in and this is a known Jag issue. They have my car at the moment and drying it out. So far they have taken 2 litres of water out of it! poor show with Jag!
 
#43 ·
Further issues with my Ipace. The Jag specialist has changed the control unit and handle on my passenger door. Fried the vehicle out and bonded the windscreen. Now the passenger door won’t lock and it’s compromising the security of the car. They have been working on it a week and still no closer to a resolution